Comments on: They’re bringing out the firepower http://lifeomike.org/2009/06/16/theyre-bringing-out-the-firepower/ Health Care For All Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:44:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: leslie http://lifeomike.org/2009/06/16/theyre-bringing-out-the-firepower/comment-page-1/#comment-146 leslie Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:21:29 +0000 http://lifeomike.org/?p=426#comment-146 Different polls say different things because of the way the questions are asked. Frankly, yours does sound more realistic. As I said, whatever works to cover everyone is fine with me. I still believe the public plan is the best option we have right now, although I would take the single-payer plan if that's what passed. That's incredibly unlikely. You and I disagree on what will be the best solution, but that's OK. I will continue to say I support the public plan as a choice for people. After all, plenty of people still support the post office, which will take your piece of mail and get it to someone on the other side of the country for a mere 44 cents. Love you. Different polls say different things because of the way the questions are asked. Frankly, yours does sound more realistic.
As I said, whatever works to cover everyone is fine with me. I still believe the public plan is the best option we have right now, although I would take the single-payer plan if that’s what passed. That’s incredibly unlikely. You and I disagree on what will be the best solution, but that’s OK. I will continue to say I support the public plan as a choice for people. After all, plenty of people still support the post office, which will take your piece of mail and get it to someone on the other side of the country for a mere 44 cents.
Love you.

]]> By: Christian http://lifeomike.org/2009/06/16/theyre-bringing-out-the-firepower/comment-page-1/#comment-145 Christian Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:20:34 +0000 http://lifeomike.org/?p=426#comment-145 http://www.gallup.com/poll/120890/Healthcare-Americans-Trust-Physicians-Politicians.aspx Here's a much better poll.... http://www.gallup.com/poll/120890/Healthcare-Americans-Trust-Physicians-Politicians.aspx

Here’s a much better poll….

]]> By: Christian http://lifeomike.org/2009/06/16/theyre-bringing-out-the-firepower/comment-page-1/#comment-144 Christian Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:19:09 +0000 http://lifeomike.org/?p=426#comment-144 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/17/obama-boost-new-poll-show_n_217175.html The reason the numbers sound conflicting is because they are. I'm guessing that's why they weren't sited. In the article you'll read that the polling data is obviously flawed or fudged. Mathematicaly it is impossible for 76% of people to support something that 32% of the public are in complete opposition to. The article has also been characterized as misleading by ending with saying that 55% supported it at the end. That was a quote that 55% of the 30% undecided were swayed to it. These are bad numbers either way. This could seriously hamper credibility. I love everyone involved with this movement and am always willing to be of help to it, but this is now actively condoning and sponsoring something that I morally disagree with. We can't be raising arguments with numbers that haven't been vetted for accuracy. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/17/obama-boost-new-poll-show_n_217175.html
The reason the numbers sound conflicting is because they are. I’m guessing that’s why they weren’t sited. In the article you’ll read that the polling data is obviously flawed or fudged. Mathematicaly it is impossible for 76% of people to support something that 32% of the public are in complete opposition to.
The article has also been characterized as misleading by ending with saying that 55% supported it at the end. That was a quote that 55% of the 30% undecided were swayed to it. These are bad numbers either way. This could seriously hamper credibility. I love everyone involved with this movement and am always willing to be of help to it, but this is now actively condoning and sponsoring something that I morally disagree with.
We can’t be raising arguments with numbers that haven’t been vetted for accuracy.

]]> By: leslie http://lifeomike.org/2009/06/16/theyre-bringing-out-the-firepower/comment-page-1/#comment-140 leslie Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:16:32 +0000 http://lifeomike.org/?p=426#comment-140 First, I do not call people names. Second, the number of people who would support single-payer is 76 percent, according to an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll -- the same poll that showed Obama's approval rating dropping five points. To answer your questions about what we're doing: We have letter-writing parties where people can write to their legislators. We do not tell them what to write and we don't read the letters. We're just encouraging people to get involved in the process so legislators know big business isn't the only thing talking to them We are seeking funding to start Patient Pals and Family Friends, a companionship program of volunteers who will be there for people in medical crisis. We help people who call us to find medical care. A lot of times there's nothing we can do, but we can send them to free clinics or agencies that can help them get what they need. We're doing what we can, but we can't change this broken system without the help of others. Surveys do show two-thirds of Americans would support a single-payer plan. That doesn't mean they're working actively for it, but if it was passed, they would be happy about it. I'm one of them, but I refuse to exclude any solution that would work. What I want is decent health care for everyone, and the big corporations are trying to block it. What interested me most abouit the Reich post was the amount of money being spent by the health care industry to try and block even a public plan option. The corporations will not fix this themselves. History has proven that. If I get ranty, it's because I want this system fixed. It already took my child. I want better for other people's children. First, I do not call people names.
Second, the number of people who would support single-payer is 76 percent, according to an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll — the same poll that showed Obama’s approval rating dropping five points.
To answer your questions about what we’re doing:
We have letter-writing parties where people can write to their legislators. We do not tell them what to write and we don’t read the letters. We’re just encouraging people to get involved in the process so legislators know big business isn’t the only thing talking to them
We are seeking funding to start Patient Pals and Family Friends, a companionship program of volunteers who will be there for people in medical crisis.
We help people who call us to find medical care. A lot of times there’s nothing we can do, but we can send them to free clinics or agencies that can help them get what they need.
We’re doing what we can, but we can’t change this broken system without the help of others.
Surveys do show two-thirds of Americans would support a single-payer plan. That doesn’t mean they’re working actively for it, but if it was passed, they would be happy about it. I’m one of them, but I refuse to exclude any solution that would work.
What I want is decent health care for everyone, and the big corporations are trying to block it. What interested me most abouit the Reich post was the amount of money being spent by the health care industry to try and block even a public plan option. The corporations will not fix this themselves. History has proven that. If I get ranty, it’s because I want this system fixed. It already took my child. I want better for other people’s children.

]]> By: BJ http://lifeomike.org/2009/06/16/theyre-bringing-out-the-firepower/comment-page-1/#comment-136 BJ Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:14:31 +0000 http://lifeomike.org/?p=426#comment-136 Wow?!!! I've read absolutely horrid and biased quotes on this blog. I've read information rehashed from activist sites(2/3rds of Americans support single payer?) That last one came from a blog as well; not facts just propaganda. Now you quote Robert Reich as though he's a non-biased individual. This blog claims to be non-political and fact driven. All I've read is a bunch of angered quotes by people with political agendas. I'm truly sorry for anyone that would have to endure what happened with you or your son, but obviously it's more important to you now to propagate your own political views, than to do something that helps others. Please explain how any of this ranting and griping and name calling is going to help anyone. what are you doing to help people today? I guarantee you could do more without having a political agenda and just want to help people. Wow?!!!
I’ve read absolutely horrid and biased quotes on this blog. I’ve read information rehashed from activist sites(2/3rds of Americans support single payer?) That last one came from a blog as well; not facts just propaganda. Now you quote Robert Reich as though he’s a non-biased individual. This blog claims to be non-political and fact driven. All I’ve read is a bunch of angered quotes by people with political agendas. I’m truly sorry for anyone that would have to endure what happened with you or your son, but obviously it’s more important to you now to propagate your own political views, than to do something that helps others. Please explain how any of this ranting and griping and name calling is going to help anyone. what are you doing to help people today? I guarantee you could do more without having a political agenda and just want to help people.

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